The Belly of the Beast~Again

   Posted by: BobMcNeil   in IRS

I walked back into the belly of the Beast today when I met with Roger Caris, IRS Revenue Officer, at 10:00a.m. in the IRS’ office, located at 8701 S. Gessner, in Houston, Texas.

I had contacted him by telephone earlier in the week to notify him that I intended to make an audio recording of the meeting, as provided for in Title 26, Subtitle F, Chapter 77, Section 7521 of the U.S. Code.

When I arrived at the building, I had to go through a metal detector, as I had in previous meetings. When I placed my audio recorder in the basket for x-ray scanning, along with my phone, eyeglasses, and keys, the officer at the station told me I could not bring a recording device into the building. I told her that the LAW allows me to do so, and quoted 26 USC 7521. She asked me who I was meeting and I gave her Mr. Caris’ name. She attempted to call him, but he did not answer his phone. In a few minutes, however, he came out of the elevator and called my name to follow him to the meeting room, but I told him the officer needed to speak to him first. She showed him my audio recorder and asked if it was alright if I brought it into the building. He gave his permission and she gave my recorder back to me.

Mr. Caris then led me to a private meeting room, approximately 10′ x 10′ in size, containing a round table with four chairs. and nothing else. We took out our audio recording devices, placed them on the table, turned them on, and began the meeting.

After a brief introduction, he opened his file and began to ask me questions regarding the Summons. I interrupted him by handing him my written response to the Summons and suggested that he read it. He flipped though the document in less than a minute, then threw it on the floor.

I attempted to explain to him that the Summons was an outlaw form because it did not contain a valid OMB number, as required by the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1980 (44 USC 3501). But, he said he had heard that argument before and the courts had rejected it many times.

I responded by telling him that my argument was affirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court in Dole v Steelworkers 494 U.S. 26 (1990) , and more recently, by the United States Court of Appeals Tenth Circuit in United States of America v Jimmy C. Chisum, Case #06-7082, filed September 25, 2007.

In spite of this, he continued asking me a number of questions about my income, my monthly expenses, and my assets.

My consistent response was I am not required to answer your questions, or comply with the invalid Summons, per 44 USC 3512(a), and cannot be penalized for failing to do so.

Not getting the answers he was looking for, he stated that I had not complied with the Summons, and he was going to refer me to the Department of Justice for proceedings before the U.S. District Court.

He then declared the meeting over.

The entire meeting lasted less than 7 minutes.

Click on the following links for information relevant to this blog:
075 RAM Letter to Roger Caris IRS PRA Response to Summons
076 RAM Audio from IRS Meeting 102607

No direct un-apportioned tax confirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court rulings.

Knowledge is power. Educate yourselves.

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